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#1 How was the Tetragrammaton actually pronounced?
#2 On Hirsch's 19 Letters and a controversy about the meaning of it's Hebrew title
#3 On the important role played by printing never-published old works.
#4 Disapproving of R. Samson Raphael Hirsch's predilection for German
#5 What does Morenu really mean?
#6 On facing the truths of history and autobiography
#7 On alienation from his teachers, and a public retraction
#8 To what does "Nothing Jewish is Alien to Me" refer?
#9 Samuel David Luzzatto's Letter to the Ethiopian Jews
#10 On Shimon ben Shetach and the 80 Witches
#2 On Hirsch's 19 Letters and a controversy about the meaning of it's Hebrew title
#3 On the important role played by printing never-published old works.
#4 Disapproving of R. Samson Raphael Hirsch's predilection for German
#5 What does Morenu really mean?
#6 On facing the truths of history and autobiography
#7 On alienation from his teachers, and a public retraction
#8 To what does "Nothing Jewish is Alien to Me" refer?
#9 Samuel David Luzzatto's Letter to the Ethiopian Jews
#10 On Shimon ben Shetach and the 80 Witches
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Also not, at a time when Michal wasn't an Israeli girl's name, Michel could be spelt Michal.
ReplyDeletelol. Or maybe that was his name? בהר?
ReplyDeleteCan someone explain?
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDelete1. "Michal" for the assumedly reduced "Michel" is to be expected, a simple hypercorrection. How many Jews today think it's really "mikva" and that "mikve" is just an evil Yiddish corruption? Apart from that, the author obviously transfers the name into conventional equivalents - as do you yourself, writing "Abraham", not Avrohom, Afrohm or even Avraham.
2. The place of the abbreviation sign varies. As a matter of fact, bhh"r and mhh"r are at least as frequent, and what's more, usage changed between the 18th and the 19th centuries, and went more and more to a standardised position between the last two letters, as it is today.
3. BH"HR is a word all right. 18th-ct sources show that such titles were pronounced ("behárer"), just as "admor", "shlite" etc. are pronounced today.
4. "Ben Ha(sic)Rav Reb" means "the son of the rabbi Mr Abraham Epstein", not "Rabbi, Rabbi".
It's not an error.
ReplyDeletePhillip:
ReplyDeleteLooking into this a bit further, it could be you are right that it is not an error, given the author's extensive knowledge of Hebrew and rabbinic literature (he was an apostate Jew who spent his formative years in Yeshiva). At the same time, it's quite strange that he would employ such an acronym for a Christian reading audience that has little (if any) knowledge of Hebrew.
I beg to differ with the pronunciation of "mikvah" as "mikveh". It seems to me that Mikveh is in construct state, and that Mikvah is the standalone form.
ReplyDeleteMost of the uses of Mikveh mean Hope, and are construct, as in Mikveh Israel. Similarly, most places where it means Collection, it's again in construct state, Mikveh Mayim. In one place it is used standalone, Is. 22:11 meaning Reservoir, and there it's MIKVAH.
But what are the (pre-Israeli) non-Ashkenazic traditions?
ReplyDeleteWhat do they matter? If there's a Biblical precedent, it seems that would trump everything else. Lots of "ah" sounds become "eh" in Yiddish, e.g. Shaboss - Shabess, because really it's a schwa, or at least the vowel of an unstressed syllable, when Yiddish shifted the emphasis back a syllable.
ReplyDeleteIt matters because I gave this as an example for a word commonly pronounced with post-stress /ə/ that was then interpreted as a corrupted /a/. If non-Ashkenazi traditions have /ə/ or /e/ as well, my example fits, whatever the korrekt etymological form is.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Betzlal Naor, Michel BH'RR Abraham Epstein was a Sabbatian.
ReplyDeleteHi, I've been trying to reach you. DId you get my emails?
ReplyDeleteWhy can't you, every so often. throw your loyal readers a bone . Anything, Please
ReplyDeleteAww, now you're making me feel guilty!
ReplyDeleteI will try.
Hope I did make you feel bad.
ReplyDeleteI've been trained to come here every day and what do I get? Nothing.
It doesn't have to be profound. Anything will do and please do it on a regular basis.
Much appreciated.
From a loyal talmid