tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post7863204965867177750..comments2024-01-21T02:58:08.208-05:00Comments on On the Main Line: On Frumetel Fleckeles's effort to ask an Empress to allow the Jewish sick and new mothers to remain in Prague, even after being expelledMississippi Fred MacDowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-53364173221323066382013-04-24T11:55:37.090-04:002013-04-24T11:55:37.090-04:00It's remarkable designed for me to have a web ...It's remarkable designed for me to have a web site, which is good designed for my know-how. thanks admin<br /><br />Also visit my web page <a href="http://www.aprizedate.com/Celeste77" rel="nofollow">best diet</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-66704517830988692192013-03-07T11:26:20.199-05:002013-03-07T11:26:20.199-05:00Quality post.Quality post.DFhttp://www.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-25599294922768340692013-03-06T19:24:15.149-05:002013-03-06T19:24:15.149-05:00Actually, having slept on it, me thinks that a mor...Actually, having slept on it, me thinks that a more accurate definition would be "persuaded favorably leading to reconciliation" -- ala the Mishnah in Yuma (ח, ט) that "עברות שבין אדם למקום יום הכיפורים מכפר. עברות שבין אדם לחברו אין יום הכיפורים מכפר, עד שירצה את חברו" (v. Rif on Ein Yaakov ibid. that וכיון שהוא מרצה אותו ומפייסו אז הקב''ה מתרצה לו לכפר לו עוונותיו שחטא בינו לבין המקום . & from the Bavli ibid. 87a it seems that the Gemoroh assumes that מרצה is related to פיוס. Note that Soncino translates שירצה as "pacified"). <br /><br />[Perhaps from this evolved the current Modern Hebrew word of מרצה as meaning "one who presents a lecture to an audience" - proving once more that academia, especially for the Straussians, is merely the art of persuasion, or at least the attempt thereof....]<br /><br />In this context, ...רצתה בהשתדלות can mean not only that "she lobbied by the Sovereigness," but perhaps also that "she lobbied successfully [lit., favorably/persuasively] by the Sovereigness."<br /> <br />--ZIYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-61368260503456915482013-03-06T18:37:46.811-05:002013-03-06T18:37:46.811-05:00My partner and I absolutely love your blog and fin...My partner and I absolutely love your blog and find nearly all of your post's to be exactly I'm looking for.<br />Do you offer guest writers to write content in your case?<br />I wouldn't mind writing a post or elaborating on a number of the subjects you write with regards to here. 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You can read it <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=QizgDdNLEcEC&dq=Stammbaum%20des%20R.%20Eleasar%20Fleckeles&pg=PA387#v=onepage&q=Stammbaum%20des%20R.%20Eleasar%20Fleckeles&f=false" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and R. Elazar says she was his grandmother. S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-86212845433773366222013-03-06T16:39:27.503-05:002013-03-06T16:39:27.503-05:00Maybe I missed it, but what was her relation to th...Maybe I missed it, but what was her relation to the Teshuva MeAhava? Grandmother? Shimon Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-41305794873363645172013-03-06T16:38:16.340-05:002013-03-06T16:38:16.340-05:00Abs0utely. You are of course correct. Thank you!Abs0utely. You are of course correct. Thank you!S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-82601269490798081842013-03-06T10:17:55.435-05:002013-03-06T10:17:55.435-05:00http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6182-fl...http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6182-fleckeles-eleazar-ben-david<br /><br />Her father-in-law I assume . The article indicates he was a shtadlan as well<br /><br />MidwestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-17470071889325609582013-03-06T00:57:22.956-05:002013-03-06T00:57:22.956-05:00IMHO רצתה here means "found favor" or &q...IMHO רצתה here means "found favor" or "persuaded favorably" or "was accepted" -- ala the end of Megilas Ester that we just read re Mordechai that he was "RATZUI l'rov echav" וְרָצוּי לְרֹב אֶחָיו . <br /><br />So, yes, it seems that she did succeed in her shtadlanus - & therefore was still in Prague when she passed away the next year (1745).<br /><br />-- ZIY Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-46997852247520154112013-03-05T12:05:10.044-05:002013-03-05T12:05:10.044-05:00I have no idea. I assume she did lobby and lobbied...I have no idea. I assume she did lobby and lobbied successfully, the info is simply lacking so I didn't want to create stories based on words that don't say more than that. You are probably right, she was successful. I didn't really delve into the whole sequence of the expulsion, but since the order was in December of 1744 and she died in Prague in Tammuz 1745, I'm tempted to say that she did indeed succeed; after all, why was she still there? Perhaps she even personally played a role in ministering to these sick people. I don't know, but my guess is that the Prague kehilla had a Jewish hospital. <br /><br />Note that she was from one of Prague's most prominent families (and according to Kaufmann, her father was a doctor in Vienna) - she wasn't merely some nice lady who wanted to accomplish something - they probably had connections in the royal court.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-31287140469655930102013-03-05T11:58:55.082-05:002013-03-05T11:58:55.082-05:00What does רצתה בהשתדלות mean? You translated it a...What does רצתה בהשתדלות mean? You translated it as "She wished to lobby", but what does that mean? Did she <i>attempt</i> to do so? If not, why not? Did she actually do so? If not, what prevented her? If so was she successful? I don't understand how a mere desire to lobby someone would be an achievement that would be recorded on a tombstone. I'm tempted to speculate that רצתה is an incorrect transcription, and that she actually achieved such a result, which would indeed be something for her family to be proud of.Milhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350874508580081286noreply@blogger.com