tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post6129200696522288175..comments2024-01-21T02:58:08.208-05:00Comments on On the Main Line: Is this Abarbanel?Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-44272527777033870112012-06-15T00:44:38.514-04:002012-06-15T00:44:38.514-04:00Abarbanel is identified with his biblical commenta...Abarbanel is identified with his biblical commentaries (which, I might add, were authored years and even decades in some case after these panels were painted) and as a theologian:<br /><br />In fact he wrote the majority of his Periush Al Neviim Rishonim( Yehishua Shoftin and Shmuel ) in 1483 just after fleeing to SpainYeshayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-37666500395842586402012-05-16T12:48:10.994-04:002012-05-16T12:48:10.994-04:00Not his hat - on the garment itself. Look closely....Not his hat - on the garment itself. Look closely. It is a red "star" on his chest, just above the Bible(we would think of it more like an asterisk shape).<br /><br />In any case, as far as I know there is no physical description of him. I must stress that I think it is most likely not meant to be him in the Saint Vincent Panels, or to put it another way, there is nothing convincing other than pure desire and fantasy to suggest that it is him. However, I do agree that we have little reason to assume he wore a beard, certainly not then.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-29775587810053380472012-05-16T12:33:32.072-04:002012-05-16T12:33:32.072-04:00Maybe it's just me but I don't see any six...Maybe it's just me but I don't see any six-pointed star on his hat at all.<br /><br />The classic image passed around as the Abarbanel is the one here http://www.iliesi.cnr.it/perl/pagina_xhtml.pl?scelta=19&autore=Abravanel,%20Isaac%20ben%20Judah (@ the end of the page you'll see "imaggini"/images) this picture is the one printed on his seforim and the most commonly used.<br /><br />A bit more substancial evidence is from the general depictions of Abarbanel wherein they in no way resemble the man above http://no666.wordpress.com/2006/02/04/%D7%A9%D7%A8-%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A6%D7%A8-%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99-%D7%91%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%93/Ovadyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-19199187621829005222012-05-16T03:28:53.830-04:002012-05-16T03:28:53.830-04:00Sweetums is better looking. In any case, the stan...Sweetums is better looking. In any case, the standard portrait of Don Isaac shows him with an immense white beard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isaac_Abrabanel.jpg<br />Of course I have no idea as to the authenticity or provenance of this portrait, but it bears no resemblence at all to the dude in the St. Vincent panels.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-52895719337483879152012-05-15T22:02:09.096-04:002012-05-15T22:02:09.096-04:00Whether it is or isn't, I like his hat. He al...Whether it is or isn't, I like his hat. He also looks tired. <br />looks a bit like Sweetums. Dan Klein, what do you think?<br /><br />http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1600&bih=815&tbm=isch&tbnid=FLFEMWCA6BHZEM:&imgrefurl=http://therealcoffeecorner.blogspot.com/2010/07/muppet-phobia.html&docid=58Xkq_s6upBDxM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_idW0QVuomHI/TFBtlvpxa0I/AAAAAAAAAQI/YcydeypAuL0/s320/Scary%252BMuppets.jpg&w=313&h=208&ei=YAqzT9zbNOiM6QGz7_GMCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=280&sig=107657733892461934607&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=163&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:75&tx=62&ty=82Lakewood Falling Downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14483392684657880997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-12313190435379065172012-05-15T20:34:13.749-04:002012-05-15T20:34:13.749-04:00I'll be the frumak... the payos are cut way to...I'll be the frumak... the payos are cut way to high.Mendelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-15929605292613787282012-05-15T16:05:49.932-04:002012-05-15T16:05:49.932-04:00After such a long break this is what you come back...After such a long break this is what you come back to us with!?<br /><br />ehh...<br /><br />Joking ;)....Guest2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-53368956597273627152012-05-15T12:57:21.601-04:002012-05-15T12:57:21.601-04:00It isn't a magen david. It is the 6 pointed re...It isn't a magen david. It is the 6 pointed red star which Jews were compelled to wear on their clothing in Portugal. This is an authentic detail. If it is original to the panel, then it is undoubtedly a Jew. If it was added later then either the man was turned into a Jew by whomever added it, or if it is indeed Abarbanel, or another court Jew who was legallly exempted from wearing it, then it could still be a Jew.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-19766139941731354222012-05-15T12:50:52.766-04:002012-05-15T12:50:52.766-04:00Here's one: The six-pointed star was not widel...Here's one: The six-pointed star was not widely used as a Jewish symbol until much later- certainly not in Sephardic countries.Nachumnoreply@blogger.com