tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post4111400388952245519..comments2024-01-21T02:58:08.208-05:00Comments on On the Main Line: Why was Shylock named Shylock?Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-45326278351949833162015-03-16T06:53:18.807-04:002015-03-16T06:53:18.807-04:00"SHY LOCK" will not tell you where his m..."SHY LOCK" will not tell you where his money is locked away. If you get his money, he will be converted to Christianity and loose his daughter. His daughter steals the money and is converted under his nose: therefore Shy Lock is converted at the end. his daughter is converted into a three-way marriage (so the lock is quite open, as Shylock's daughter was part of his own ability to marry in to christian society) , and Shylock himself is completely emasculated by losing his "ducats."keep in mind around this time period the ashkenazim developed ways of dealing with christians converting them: they could convert women as well! Anyway, the name Shylock is technically more modern english than PSYLOCKE! and just as offensively cartoonish.<br />-source: grad student english major, it is my own literary analysis.psysaacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-65155165750083477402013-11-03T23:54:10.900-05:002013-11-03T23:54:10.900-05:00https://openlibrary.org/works/OL11562984W/Newes_co...https://openlibrary.org/works/OL11562984W/Newes_come_latle_fro_m_Pera<br /><br />which seems to be the origin of this pamphlet, dates to 1561. <br /><br />suggested by this catalogue entry:<br /><br />http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A17260.0001.001?view=tocJonathan Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-48633648073868194312013-04-21T06:08:29.728-04:002013-04-21T06:08:29.728-04:00This is one of the most popular brands available o...This is one of the most popular brands available on <br />the market today is high this lends an opportunity for these companies <br />to track whether or not your business name will be effective.<br /><br /><br /><br />My blog - <a href="http://wetfouru.com/blogs/98690/265247/season-traffic-what-is" rel="nofollow">rank on search engines</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-84768538962091801262013-04-05T16:04:55.041-04:002013-04-05T16:04:55.041-04:00Also vіѕіt my sіtе :: new york internet marketing<br /><br />Also vіѕіt my sіtе :: <a href="http://parumi.org/wikis/es1/index.php?title=User_talk:VincentGE" rel="nofollow">new york internet marketing</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-69256938564521938672012-05-06T08:42:42.039-04:002012-05-06T08:42:42.039-04:00Vid. also the "Dark Lady" theory accordi...Vid. also the "Dark Lady" theory according to which the Shakespeare writer was a Jewish woman from Italy who was educated in several languages, including Hebrew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-31100636559081033352012-05-03T02:14:23.823-04:002012-05-03T02:14:23.823-04:00From Wiki's "shyster" entry: The Mer...From Wiki's "shyster" entry: The Merriam-Webster Dictionary says it is based on the German Scheißer (literally "defecator" but also used to refer to deceivers), but the Oxford English Dictionary describes it as "of obscure origin", possibly deriving from a historical sense of "shy" meaning disreputable. Various false etymologies have proposed an anti-Semitic origin, and some people continue to regard the word as referring particularly to Jews or Jewish lawyers.<br /><br />Another website identifies the word as an "Americanism" originating in 1835-45. I think we'll have to look elsewhere for a Shylock connection.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-81654687103251312002012-05-02T01:08:54.503-04:002012-05-02T01:08:54.503-04:00Daniel, what's written on the far side of the ...Daniel, what's written on the far side of the yarmulke?<br />"No {kidding}"?Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-28192031950587162122012-05-01T18:46:24.053-04:002012-05-01T18:46:24.053-04:00Where does the word "shyster" come from?...Where does the word "shyster" come from? That has anti-semitic connotations. If it was around in Shakespeare's time, he may have just tried to find a name that sounds similar, and came up with shylock. Maybe it was a derivation of Sherlock, and he just replaced the first part with shy because of the assonance with shyster.<br /><br />rank speculation.DFhttp://www.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-28626036527284683062012-05-01T14:59:40.761-04:002012-05-01T14:59:40.761-04:00I favor Jessica coming from Yiscah because in Haml...I favor Jessica coming from Yiscah because in Hamlet, Yiftach becomes Jephthah.<br /><br />Interesting that Tuval as a name appears 22 verses before Shelach in Gen 10.Dan Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622982563470785003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-48688226228135545362012-05-01T13:44:07.640-04:002012-05-01T13:44:07.640-04:00When all is said and done I think we have to agree...When all is said and done I think we have to agree that Caleb Shilock and Shylock is probably the same name.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-40266267299443719002012-05-01T10:50:40.545-04:002012-05-01T10:50:40.545-04:00The Hebrew root for "Tuval" is the same ...The Hebrew root for "Tuval" is the same as the word (tevel) that means "the world/universe."<br />If viewed as a parallel with "Shylock," that would tend to support the SRCohen insight about "kl ish."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-11964763396295437322012-05-01T01:51:48.775-04:002012-05-01T01:51:48.775-04:00Shakespeare invented "Jessica." Some say...Shakespeare invented "Jessica." Some say it may be from "Jesse." But if Tuval and Yiscah, maybe the source for "Shylock" is the first few chapters of Genesis. Which, I have no idea.Nachumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-7872932139710975452012-04-30T15:22:11.788-04:002012-04-30T15:22:11.788-04:00just another note -- I had this made and wear it w...just another note -- I had this made and wear it with pride...<br /><br />http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h348/rosends/kippah.jpgDan Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622982563470785003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-2129477033125783802012-04-30T11:55:33.537-04:002012-04-30T11:55:33.537-04:00I appreciate this information - I have done some o...I appreciate this information - I have done some of this research to present to my own students and we have, in class, brainstormed other ideas. Once we decided that the name had no clear biblical or religious reference point we were left with the question of "why then was the other money lender's name Tubal which IS biblical?" We also tried to figure out why Shylock's daughter would have the name Jessica. Yiscah is biblical but esoteric.Dan Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622982563470785003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-17402838039902633212012-04-30T10:47:04.043-04:002012-04-30T10:47:04.043-04:00cf. S.R. Cohen letter of 2007 in the FORWARD:
....cf. S.R. Cohen letter of 2007 in the FORWARD:<br /><br /> <br />...Shakespeare did not select a biblical or Hebrew-sounding name for the highly identifiably Semitic character of Shylock. How odd.<br />However, if you transliterate the word "Shylock" into Hebrew characters and subsequently read the results right to left, you approximately wind up with - depending on whether you employ the letter kaf or qaf for the "ck" sound and whether you use the vowel waw for the "o" sound - either "kl ish," meaning "everyman," or "qol ish," meaning "voice of (a) man."<br />As Pete Rose might say, figure the odds. Did Shakespeare, or perhaps one of his close acquaintances, know some Hebrew?<br />If this speculation on my part is correct, then this linguistic oddity goes far to remove the taint of antisemitism from Shakespeare's portrait of Shylock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-19666373206739385892012-04-30T03:02:24.903-04:002012-04-30T03:02:24.903-04:00Another idea occurred to me: Shylock (or Shilok) f...Another idea occurred to me: Shylock (or Shilok) from "Shiloh," pronounced in English with a long "i". This derivation would be particularly apt if the name was first used for a Jewish "prophet," since the inventor of such a character might have had in mind the phrase "until Shiloh come" (ad ki yavo Shiloh, Gen. 49:10), a prophecy that was regarded with special significance by Christians.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-72663132282865171702012-04-29T13:57:49.163-04:002012-04-29T13:57:49.163-04:00It functions the same way as italics itself does; ...It functions the same way as italics itself does; for emphasis. This used to be very common for all proper nouns. A later iteration of that was to capitalize all nouns, and eventually all proper nouns, as we still do. You find a similar thing in Yiddish or Judeo-German books, which used to be printed in Rashi or another cursive script, but would use the square letters for pure Hebrew words.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-67224825405422148772012-04-29T03:18:42.688-04:002012-04-29T03:18:42.688-04:00What's up with switching out of Gothic / Itali...What's up with switching out of Gothic / Italics for people's names?JXGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-62877388844252365342012-04-27T02:20:48.726-04:002012-04-27T02:20:48.726-04:00Isaac Asimov (independently, as far as I can tell)...Isaac Asimov (independently, as far as I can tell) thought the cormorant was a possibility as well.Nachumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-47696912416077737832012-04-27T02:05:03.292-04:002012-04-27T02:05:03.292-04:00This is a question that I've wondered about fo...This is a question that I've wondered about for a long time. If Cecil Roth couldn't solve it, I'm not going to lose any more sleep about it myself. The cormorant theory is interesting, but why or how would "shalach" have turned into "Shylock" rather than something like "Shollock"?<br /><br />Has anyone, I wonder, ever suggested a derivation from "shai lach," i.e. "a gift to you"? It would be the closest Hebrew phrase phonetically, but the meaning would be ironic at best and nonsensical at worst, and would also presume a fairly high level of Hebrew on Shakespeare's part. I'm just saying.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-33811743507356465002012-04-26T22:08:49.079-04:002012-04-26T22:08:49.079-04:00Raz, you might be interested, or at least amused, ...Raz, you might be interested, or at least amused, by the notion that Shakespeake, or a friend of his, helped write the King James Bible, and that he inserted his name into it. In the 46th Psalm, the 46th word is "shake" and the 46th word from the end (maybe excluding the "selah") is "spear."Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-22987878890270913212012-04-26T22:02:25.565-04:002012-04-26T22:02:25.565-04:00Very interesting post!
Do you feel like doing a po...Very interesting post!<br />Do you feel like doing a post on the Shakespeare-was-a-Jew theory?Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-1713011148258090342012-04-26T15:37:16.408-04:002012-04-26T15:37:16.408-04:00That was one of Israel Gollancz's theories. It...That was one of Israel Gollancz's theories. It's possible.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-26266932421392842832012-04-26T14:08:49.608-04:002012-04-26T14:08:49.608-04:00Actually, I believe that it refers to the cormoran...Actually, I believe that it refers to the cormorant. Shakespeare directly mentions the cormorant four times in his plays.<br /><br />Richard II, Act II, Scene 1:<br /><br />With eager feeding food doth choke the feeder:<br />Light vanity, insatiate cormorant,<br />Consuming means, soon preys upon itself.<br /><br /><br />Love’s Labour’s Lost, Act I Scene I:<br /><br />When, spite of cormorant devouring Time,<br />The endeavor of this present breath may buy<br />That honour which shall bate his scythe's keen edge<br />And make us heirs of all eternity.<br /><br /><br />Troilus and Cressida, Act II, Scene II:<br /><br />Wounds, friends, and what else dear that is consumed<br />In hot digestion of this cormorant war—<br /><br /><br />Coriolanus, Act I, Scene I:<br /><br />Should by the cormorant belly be restrain'd,<br />Who is the sink o' the body,--<br /> <br />We see that Shakespeare uses the image of the cormorant as something that is voracious and insatiable.<br /><br />In both ויקרא יא,17 and דברים יד,17 the King James Bible translates the word: הַשָּׁלָךְ as “the cormorant.”<br /><br />Shylock is an obvious transliteration and fits with Shakespeare's imagery.Raznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-3098560561235941922012-04-26T13:07:03.120-04:002012-04-26T13:07:03.120-04:00Fascinating. As a Shakespeare fan (not buff), I ap...Fascinating. As a Shakespeare fan (not buff), I appreciate this.Mark Peltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983849688689281642noreply@blogger.com