tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post5822747686509843455..comments2024-01-21T02:58:08.208-05:00Comments on On the Main Line: A unique manuscript shows how 13th century Jewish children begin studying Torah in Ashkenaz.Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-32966435446142123032010-11-30T10:39:12.256-05:002010-11-30T10:39:12.256-05:00LOLLOLS.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-85152465803576703882010-11-30T10:34:15.998-05:002010-11-30T10:34:15.998-05:00and most people think Loans was his first teacher....<b>and most people think Loans was his first teacher.</b><br /><br />No, S, most people haven't heard of Reuchlin. Or (probably) Hebrew, for that matter.Mar Gavrielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-35878979152372340872010-11-29T09:15:29.314-05:002010-11-29T09:15:29.314-05:00>i guess i'm missing something, but what ex...>i guess i'm missing something, but what exactly would we think you made up? <br /><br />Sorry, sometimes I'm immersed in my own thoughts and am not clear enough. As far as I can tell, it is not common knowledge that he was taught the basics of Hebrew from a melamed named Kalman, and most people think Loans was his first teacher.<br /><br />Re teaching nikud without nikud, that's why I don't think this was really a teaching primer, but just one for repeating, probably in a stylized first-time sort of way.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-40086617820257684122010-11-29T06:03:51.858-05:002010-11-29T06:03:51.858-05:00DF: yes indeed, Tzefania 3:8, but it has a lot mor...DF: yes indeed, Tzefania 3:8, but it has a lot more than 27 letters ;-)Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-60891223222526151592010-11-29T01:00:16.913-05:002010-11-29T01:00:16.913-05:00found one at jts:
http://alpha3.jtsa.edu:8997/F/HT...found one at jts:<br />http://alpha3.jtsa.edu:8997/F/HT16KQF2YAB49XUP6BR77TTSNGR57YMQ5ER5ULFYTATC2A19RA-11089?func=full-set-set&set_number=003390&set_entry=000001&format=999<br /><br />see in the notes to this record for some secondary literature and call numbers of other jts genizah primers<br />also see the explnation of ayak becharAbba's Rantingshttp://abbasrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-38128384992146588122010-11-29T00:35:20.917-05:002010-11-29T00:35:20.917-05:00i can't find the jts specimen, but there is T-...i can't find the jts specimen, but there is T-S K5.13 at cambridge (10th c.)<br /><br />i haven't seen this article, but http://jss.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/1/47.abstractAbba's Rantingshttp://abbasrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-74926996998506457262010-11-29T00:27:38.349-05:002010-11-29T00:27:38.349-05:00i'm laughing at the right side of the page. te...i'm laughing at the right side of the page. teaching nikkud without the nikkud. surely one line would have sufficed with instructions to repeat it each time with a different vowel.<br /><br />there is a genizah fragment at jts that was a student's primer, but i don't remember anything about it.<br /><br />"no, I did not just make this up."<br /><br />i guess i'm missing something, but what exactly would we think you made up?Abba's Rantingshttp://abbasrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-13582011385322785692010-11-28T21:45:37.662-05:002010-11-28T21:45:37.662-05:00There is actually a passuk, in Tzefaniah if I reme...There is actually a passuk, in Tzefaniah if I remember right, in which all the letters of the alpahbet are used, like the quick brown fox. So there was no need to invent a phrase. I have it in my notes. I can look it up and repost if you're intressante.DFhttp://www.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-50317147441674490742010-11-28T04:34:38.852-05:002010-11-28T04:34:38.852-05:00Thank you so much forהקץ עצל דיך מנום גרש כזב פן ת...Thank you so much forהקץ עצל דיך מנום גרש כזב פן תוסף חטא. I heard it years ago and never made a note of the text, and have tried to Google for it many times without success.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-66295745832658931822010-11-27T10:40:52.724-05:002010-11-27T10:40:52.724-05:00I give permission for the hat tip!I give permission for the hat tip!DafKesherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08554696548964024016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-24292191356273455182010-11-26T11:57:23.131-05:002010-11-26T11:57:23.131-05:00Also, I was not trying to represent the manuscript...Also, I was not trying to represent the manuscript, otherwise I would have typed everything including fill letters, or whatever the kids are calling them these days.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-4890457472956472342010-11-26T11:56:08.197-05:002010-11-26T11:56:08.197-05:00I did the best I could. I think the HTML would mak...I did the best I could. I think the HTML would make a small letter rest on the bottom while it should rest on the top.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-6156821543702017672010-11-26T11:49:08.343-05:002010-11-26T11:49:08.343-05:00Why do you make the aleph superscript? In our Tora...Why do you make the aleph superscript? In our Torah-scrolls, it's small (not the same as superscript), but not in this manuscript. Aren't you trying to accurately present what's in the manuscript?Mar Gavrielnoreply@blogger.com