tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post4837516089274867814..comments2024-01-21T02:58:08.208-05:00Comments on On the Main Line: What can camels tell us about kashrut? Also, the Neturei Karta's ideological connection to Napoleon's Chief Rabbi de Cologna.Mississippi Fred MacDowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734864605700159687noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-76753203206263897482010-03-17T00:29:16.716-04:002010-03-17T00:29:16.716-04:00This is my name.
Skimming, looked interesting. I t...This is my name.<br />Skimming, looked interesting. I think Ramban, Abarbanel, Ralbag, others, also discuss the reason for non kosher. I think it's one of the ironic cases where the Abarbanel group "attack" the other Rishonim, and say the Torah is not a health book. Of course there's the medrash tanchuma's approach as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-38039149046082029532010-02-03T17:07:31.244-05:002010-02-03T17:07:31.244-05:00Thanks.Thanks.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-43857246939526668982010-02-02T14:33:58.851-05:002010-02-02T14:33:58.851-05:00lawrence kaplan
You make a common mistake regardi...lawrence kaplan<br /><br />You make a common mistake regarding the Rambam on dietary laws. Th Rambam in Guide 3:35 refers to his comments in the Shemoneh Perakim Chapter 4, and says that the reason for dietary laws is as a moral discipline, to curb excessive desire for food and drink. He repeats this point at the beginning of 3:48. The question now is, granted that it makes moral and psychological sense, as a moral discipine, to forbid blanketly certain types of food, but why then pig as opposed to beef. It is in connection with this issue of what particular categories of food are to be forbiden, ONCE THE BASIC RATIONALE FOR FORBIDDING CERTAIN CATEGORIES HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED ALREADY, that the Rambam invokes hygienic explanations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-66372206549787905672010-02-02T14:25:17.704-05:002010-02-02T14:25:17.704-05:00Daniel, the image is in Nahum Sokolow's "...Daniel, the image is in Nahum Sokolow's "History of Zionism" volume 1 between pgs 84 and 85. The images were supplied by Israel Abrahams, as you can see from the page itself. <br /><br />I have some more Sanhedrin material, and would be happy to send some your way, or at least let you know what I've got. Please email me if you are interested.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-73777672398748308342010-02-02T14:01:21.684-05:002010-02-02T14:01:21.684-05:00Interesting post. I particularly enjoyed the port...Interesting post. I particularly enjoyed the portraits of the Parisian Sanhedrin, as I am currently putting together a small exhibition on the Sanhedrin. Do you mind if I ask what the source was? If I can get hold of a copy, it might be a nice addition to the exhibition.<br /><br />Incidentally, I blogged briefly about the <i>Decisions Docrinales</i> of the Sanhedrin over <a href="http://daniel-saunders.blogspot.com/2010/01/napoleon-again.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Daniel Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07087956908558706584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-1594733959850707382010-02-02T10:47:01.611-05:002010-02-02T10:47:01.611-05:00Not only a nutcase, but a get-rich-quick schemer. ...Not only a nutcase, but a get-rich-quick schemer. Noah admitted at some point that he would have made out well if the Ararat plan had succeeded. His scheme was a fascinating blend of unreal expectations and megalomania with meticulous planning and sincere ahavat Yisrael. Later in life he made a famous speech in favor of emigration to Palestine, years before Pinsker or Kalischer.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-31810048771702070692010-02-02T08:47:10.239-05:002010-02-02T08:47:10.239-05:00I would conjecture that Yesode Ha-Torah should be ...I would conjecture that Yesode Ha-Torah should be given priority as to his views; unless they are somehow complimentary. It was written in 1839 and tinkered with until it reached its final form, and published shortly before his death. His Torah commentary, on the other hand, is a compilation.<br /><br />As for Cologna's reply, it seems pretty clear what he was intending. First of all, he did not reply to Noah. He replied in a French journal. One can only imagine what the French periodicals had been saying when word of Noah's project had come. Secondly, he ends with a declaration that the Jews are entirely devoted to the countries in which they reside. This declaration is meant for non-Jewish consumption. Indeed, he (and Rabbis Hirschell and Meldola) must have been quite chagrined when Noah's plan reached them. Jews had been doing pretty nicely in France and England. It is no surprise that later in the century Zionism spoke so strongly to the Jews in Eastern Europe. As for Zunz, apparently his reaction was much more favorable. He (along with several other German Jews) were interested in Jewish emigration to the United States, and sent Noah a reply requesting more information. This letter was published in the AJHS XX (1911) and I would be happy to send it to you and anyone else who emails me. <br /><br />This doesn't mean that Cologna et al didn't truly believe what they were writing. Indeed, in 1825 the possibility of the Jews lifting themselves out of exile was exceedingly remote, and surely almost no one could imagine it. Someone who could imagine it, like Noah, must have come across like a bit of a nutcase. 50 years earlier Mendelssohn cited the 3 oaths in a letter to a non-Jew who had proposed the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-29156408883775335542010-02-02T03:19:19.834-05:002010-02-02T03:19:19.834-05:00Shadal's comment on Ex. 22:30 notes that Abrav...Shadal's comment on Ex. 22:30 notes that Abravanel, following Ramban, held that eating a terefah (i.e. an animal that has been torn to pieces and found dead) produces a bad and corrupted "temperament" (mezeg). Maybe these authorities were the source of the opinion cited by Cardoso. The concept seems to be derived from Hippocratic theories of digestion: http://www.compare-diet.com/en/cooking-hippocratic_dietetics#d4.<br /><br />Rather than adopting this rationale, Shadal goes on to say that eating "inferior" types of food such as terefah, nevelah, and sheratsim "cannot be separated from an inferior and lowly spiritual character. A person who eats such foods, other than by necessity, is an inferior and deficient person who has no sense of the exaltedness of humankind and who is likely to fall into all kinds of unworthy and evil conduct." This opinion seems to differ, at least to some extent, from Shadal's view in Yesodei Ha-Torah that it really doesn't matter which foods are asur as long as some of them are.<br /><br />Rabbi de Cologna and the other members of Napoleon's Sanhedrin had to toe a careful line between faithfulness to halakha and deference to the French state and French public opinion. It seems to me that considerations of "what will the goyim think" and "of course we're good Frenchmen" were as important as any others in Cologna's response to Mordecai Noah's project.Dan Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-35237243420643635082010-02-01T22:49:51.258-05:002010-02-01T22:49:51.258-05:00Great Post. Although it took me a while to get to ...Great Post. Although it took me a while to get to the NK connection. :)<br /><br />The Rambam himself has a list of kosher foods which are unhealthy and should not be eaten. How would he resolve that?Yosef Greenberghttp://blog.yachdus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-55209328725658369902010-02-01T20:37:21.679-05:002010-02-01T20:37:21.679-05:00Thanks for the corrections. Indeed, I put together...Thanks for the corrections. Indeed, I put together this post under very difficult conditions. Imagine that I was hunting lions or something at the time; plus, I am a terrible speller. I will make the necessary corrections.S.http://onthemainline.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-28618334039726607772010-02-01T20:06:23.763-05:002010-02-01T20:06:23.763-05:00No need to post this:
The number of typos was much...No need to post this:<br />The number of typos was much higher than usual.<br />Still, it was a fantastic post.<br /><br />PhilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12600498.post-24666774325310827462010-02-01T18:43:16.770-05:002010-02-01T18:43:16.770-05:00http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40215&...http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40215&st=&pgnum=24&hilite=take the e from eessence and add it to hygiennoreply@blogger.com